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Robert Fox

In scrutinizing the on-line baseball archives,I found no mention of any member of the USMA Class of 1962 or any of the three teams to which that Class contributed other than the list of lettermen:

Crane, LT DeJardin, AR Eccleston, TF Fox, RM Lilley, RJ McRae, WD Schmidt, JL

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Larry Crane

Cracked a loud bat on the Diamond.  Basketball 4, 3, 2 & 1 (Army A 3, 2 & 1); Baseball 4, 3 & 2 (Army A 3)

Two Sport Man

The list of basketball lettermen includes Larry Crane (1960 and 1962 — we would like Larry to tell us about 1961), Al DeJardin (1960 and 1962 — same question), Bob Loupe (1962), and Stu Sherard (1960, 1961, and 1962).

The media guide includes a rather odd one of Larry Crane found in”’62 Can Do” in the basketball section on the 1962 Class page.

In scrutinizing the on-line baseball archives, I found no mention of any member of the USMA Class of 1962 or any of the three teams to which that Class contributed other than the list of lettermen:

Crane, LT

DeJardin, AR

Eccleston, TF

Fox, RM

Lilley, RJ

McRae, WD

Schmidt, JL

Larry Crane lives in Newagen, ME, with his wife, Jan. Both are playwrights and have published several works, some of which have won awards. by Dave Phillips – ’62

 

Chris Stanat

Coach Stanat

He earned 2 Monograms in Football

Chris Stanat played only sparingly in his final year at fullback, but he did score a couple of touchdowns in games Army had in hand. He felt honored, he said, to be included in discussions of Army football these many years later.

He went on to point out that, as a young USMC officer, he was undefeated coaching teams on Okinawa that beat the best the regional Army teams could offer. The details are actually pretty impressive.

Bob Mischak’s tackle – 1953 Army Duke

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Leroy Aliz


I do not know how much of an influence Coach Alitz had on my character. I am not so sure I would have graduated if it were not for Army Wrestling and Coach Alitz. I remember how I felt when he smiled at one of my comments or at something I did. I know how I felt when the night before the match he told me we had to have my win and I failed losing on points. (Army 14 — Lehigh 19). I know how I felt when he put an arm around me as I walked off the mat after bridging for 9 minutes in a loss to an All American. I know how I felt when he put an arm around me and said thanks for my contribution to a win over Navy. (Army 15 — Navy 14) I know that — when after he had repeatedly given me a fresh man every 3 minutes, yelled at me “Hold your head up” as I sucked in huge gulps of fowl air steaming from under my rubber jacket and then as I sat dejected against the wall, came over sat down next to me, put and arm around me, asked me about academics, — he made me just want to give more. Each morning I go to the Y for my routine — I think of him.

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Bob Carroll

Bob & Kathleen Caroll

Dick Schonberger

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Jude Theibert

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John Brinson

John Brinson

Mark West

Class of 1991

Captain of 150/ Sprint Team that went 6-0 Beating Navy and the 4th Championship in 5 years.

Mark is #17 – 4th from left

http://forwhattheygaveonsaturdayafternoon.com/wp-1991/150

2008 — 150/Lightweight Football Coach

West Leads Lightweights Past Navy 32-10; Evening News Athlete of the Week, Nov 16, 1989
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tiJHAAAAIBAJ&sjid=oDMNAAAAIBAJ&pg=2836%2C2252997

Jim Ellis

Jim & Carol Ellis 

Cadet Brigade Commander, Star Man, Lacrosse, Responsible for the recording of General of the Army Douglas MacArthur‘s Duty Honor Country Farewell Address to the Cadet Corps – on 12 May 1962.  Commanded 3d Army, “Patton’s Own”  The team is more important than any individual. While individuals may perform outstandingly (we have awards); it is the success of the team that determines the outcome of the battle and the war. As General Patton said, “The Army moves as a team, eats as a team, and fights as a team.”

  1.  Farrell UtterbackPosted November 1, 2017 at 10:06 am I served under, then capt. Ellis in 67. He was my Co.
    in a inf. co. with the first inf.
    I had the pleasure of taking him and his wife Carol
    to dinner in 2006.
    I had the upmost respect for him as a officer and a
    gentelmen.Utterback (Bud)


1962

1st Captain

Star Man

Lacrosse

Jim – – Just as Cadets we gave, We have served our Nation as Graduates.

Jim Ellis took it upon himself (taking it from meeting to meeting, from post to post) to have the Pictorial of General of The Army Douglas MacArthur speaking to us just prior to our graduation, signed by the members of the Class of 1962. Jim asked Harry Hagerty to sign for Turk Griffith who we lost in Vietnam. The Pictorial hangs on the South wall of the 62 Room

There were 4 Cadets specifically included in the Pictorial – Jim Kays (who was not there – he was on weekend with Jeane now his wife), Jim Ellis, — —

The recording of General of the Army Douglas MacArthur‘s Duty Honor Country – on 12 May 1962, was accomplished only because Jim Ellis Class of 1962, Cadet Brigade Commander did not feel it was satisfactory to have only a written record.

http://forwhattheygaveonsaturdayafternoon.com/wp-1962/macarthur-dhc

The Worth of a Class by Dave Phillips is at – –

http://usma1962.westpointaog.com/WorthofaWPClass.htm

Lieutenant General James R. Ellis

General Ellis was born in Birmingham, Alabama, on 29 January 1937. He enlisted in the Army in 1955, entered the United States Military Academy in July 1958, graduated from USMA in June 1962, and was commissioned in the Infantry.

Education

General Ellis has a Bachelor of Science Degree from West Point and a Masters Degree in Public and International Affairs from Princeton University. He is a graduate of the Infantry Officer Basic Course, the Army Officer Advanced Course, the Armed Forces Staff College, and the National War College.

Assignments
General Ellis’ past assignments include Company Commander in the 82d Airborne Division at Fort Bragg and in the Dominican Republic; Company Commander and Assistant G3 in the 1st Infantry Division in Vietnam; Advisor in the Delta Region of Vietnam; Assistant Professor of Economics and International Relations at West Point; Infantry Battalion Executive Officer and Deputy Chief of Staff of the 7th Infantry Division at Fort Ord; Commander of a Basic combat Training Battalion at Fort Leonard Wood; Staff Officer in the Office of the Army Chief of Staff and in the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs; Commander of the 29th Infantry Regiment at Fort Benning; Chief of Staff and Garrison Commander of Fort Benning; Assistant Division Commander of the 10th Mountain Division; Chief, Office of the Defense Representative to Pakistan; Commanding General, 10th Mountain Division and Fort Drum; Deputy Commander in Chief and Chief of Staff, United States Central Command. His last assignment was Commanding General, Third Army, July 18, 1992 to July 15, 1994

Overseas Tours

He served two tours in Vietnam, one in the Dominican Republic with the 82d, and one in Pakistan. General Ellis has had five joint assignments.

Awards & Decorations

General Ellis’ awards and decorations include the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, Distinguished Service Medal, Silver Star, Defense Superior Service Medal with Oak Leaf Cluster, Legion of Merit with Oak Leaf Cluster, Bronze Star with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters, Purple Heart, Meritorious Service Medal with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters, Combat Infantryman Badge, Ranger Tab, Master Parachutist’s Badge, Department of the Army General Staff Identification Badge, and the Office of the Secretary of Defense Identification Badge.

Association of Graduates, U.S.M.A. Register of Graduates and Former Cadets. Cullum no. 23829.

 Commanded 3d Army, “Patton’s Own”  The team is more important than any individual. While individuals may perform outstandingly (we have awards); it is the success of the team that determines the outcome of the battle and the war. As General Patton said, “The Army moves as a team, eats as a team, and fights as a team.”

Publications

Ellis, James R., Captain. “Hot Pursuit.” Cavalry Journal. 77:Sept.-Oct., 1968, 9-11.

Our Army is a team. As General Patton said, “The Army moves as a team, eats as a team, and fights as a team.” The team is more important than any individual. While individuals may perform outstandingly (and we have an awards and promotion system to recognize outstanding performance); it is the success of the team that determines the outcome of the battle and the war. We train cadets at West Point to be outstanding individuals and to work together to accomplish team goals. But mostly we train them to be leaders of teams – Platoon through Theater Army. Patton understood the importance of teams and their accomplishments. I think General Patton would support the efforts on behalf of the ’53 Football Team.

Jim went on to say —

In my last three years on active duty, I was twice President of the
promotion board selecting LTC to COL. This was a very tough selection
because it was the first time that less than half of those eligible
would be selected. The selection rate from Captain to Major was about
75 to 80 % and the rate from Major to LTC was close to 65 %. But the
rate from LTC to Colonel was 40 % or less.

It was made even tougher by the fact that all the candidates were dedicated officers who had put 18 to 21 years into their careers with the attendant disruptions, relocations and dangers associated with our chosen profession.

The Army treated this selection process with extreme care. The promotion board was made up of 20 General Officers from all over the Army, and it met for six weeks. The board make-up was carefully chosen – every major command and line branch was represented (Chaplain, Medical and JAG had their own boards). Also, there were female and minority members.

Fairness and impartiality had to be practiced and outwardly perceived. The guidance was very clear and in two distinct but supporting parts:

Select the best qualified who meet the needs of the Army. Read that carefully. We couldn’t select just combat arms officers; there were needs in all branches. And, an Army with large numbers of minority and female troops had a need for upward mobility of minority and female officers.

The Army Athletic Hall of Fame selection committee is facing a similar task. They must select the best qualified who meet the needs of the graduates and current (and future) cadets – all of them. Each sport must be considered – team and individual, male and female. And, they must look at “old timers” as well as more recent candidates. I’m sure the selection committee members are all working under tough pressures.

PURPOSE

The purpose of the Army Sports Hall of Fame, located within the Kenna Hall of Army Sports, is to honor the athletes, coaches, teams, administrators and others who have brought distinction to Army athletics over its many years of existence. Those team and individual achievements deemed worthy of admittance, based on the established criteria, will be formally recognized with displays in a designated Hall of Fame area of the Kenna Hall of Army Sports, located within the Kimsey Athletic Center.

 

Jim Cain

Jim Cain

Bob Doering

Bob Doering

John King

John King & Maria

John Trent

1950

Led one of Army’s greatest teams. Killed in Korea and posthumously named Footballs Man of the Year by the Football Writers Association of America. – Joseph December 11, 2005

http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1950/17938/

Captain Football Team

Killed in Action Korea

USMA 1950

John Charles Trent
NO. 17938 11 October 1926 15 November 1950

Killed in Korea, November 15, 1950, near Wonsan. Aged 24 years.

“We are landing at the Port of Wonsan tomorrow; it has not yet been secured. Please don’t worry about me.” These were the last words heard from big, wide-smiling, gentle John Trent who met his death near Wonsan, November 15, 1950.

John, or Jack, as he was known to his family and friends in Memphis, was born on October 11, 1926 to Walter and Eleanor Trent. His parents still live in the house on Walker Avenue where he was born – a house filled with memories of his happy boyhood. The youngest of five children, John was born into a family, close-knit in love for one another, and one in which traditions, especially as to holidays and birthdays, are carried on from year to year – family gatherings at Thanksgiving and Christmas, trips to the country at Easter and on the Fourth of July, picnics in the summertime and circuses in the fall.

In his junior high school years, John became interested in sports, entering every one that was offered in the school. His capacity for leadership was shown by his being elected president of the senior class, captain of the football team, and most popular boy in his class. The newspapers selected him as one of the most promising football players entering high school that year.

His interest and skill in athletics continued to develop during his high school days. As a senior, he was a member of the Student Council, and received many honors in athletics. Immediately after graduation, John attended Louisiana State University, finishing one year’s work before he was called to the Air Force. After fifteen months In the Air Force, he entered West Point.

Whenever John was at home, there was a gathering of the boys from high school days, for a spaghetti supper. These friendships did not lessen with the years, and each time John returned, it became a standing joke to say, as the phone rang and rang, “Jack is home again!”

John’s years at West Point and the few months after graduation, are beautifully described in the following tribute written by “HIS ROOMMATES”:

“On that warm Summer day In 1946, a strapping young man came to us from a loving Tennessee family who had moulded him in the family traditions of love and honor. With those inbred ties of closeness and courage, he lived and died a true All-American. These words are most fitting to John C. Trent, our dearest friend, who left us on the Korean field of battle on 15 November 1950.

“Our initial acquaintance with John took place on a field similar to that from which he left us . . . a Beast Barracks tactics problem on the mock battle grounds that circumscribe our Alma Mater. Here for the first time we met the broad-shouldered, rugged individual who was to be our roommate for three years. John arrived at West Point and we immediately accepted the modest and unassuming typical “Rebel” for the friend that he was. Despite the many laurels and kudos that he earned for his prowess and accomplishments, he departed from us unchanged as the quiet fellow he had been from the start. We remember him for that cool steadiness and amiable personality that depicted a man who lived for the enjoyment of life itself.

“John never lost sight of his eternal goal to return home to his cherished family in Memphis and spend his days with Mom, Dad, his sisters, brother Bud, relatives and friends. The love and ties that are often absent within the American family of today were ever so present with the wonderful Trents. John’s return from every leave aIways found him bubbling over with the joys of having been HOME. Naturally, too, there was always “THE” girl in John’s life which meant that Memphis was the garden spot of the world for him.

“If John’s family and home were his first love, then we must call football his second. In the ALL-American game, John fulfilled his every ambition as he led our Black Knights of the Hudson through the difficult 1949 campaign . . . undefeated and untied. In each of his three years on the gridiron he held one moment to be more cherished than the others . . . 1947 . . . A pass interception against Navy that resulted in a touchdown and a 21-0 victory FOR THE TEAM . . . 1948 . . . His last-second grab of a Galiffa pass that proved the margin of victory FOR THE TEAM against Pennsylvania In a bitterly fought 26-20 battle . . . 1949 . . . Leading THE TEAM in the huge bowl at Philadelphia In defeating our great rivals, the Midshipmen of Annapolis, 38-0, the soundest trouncing in the history of that long series. The shy, reserved pride of this ALL-American John Trent was ever at its highest in receiving from friend and foe alike the simple accolade of recognition, ‘Hi, Big John.’ For this kind of man, it was more than enough. It was this kind of man they called ‘ALL-American,’ the best our beloved country had to offer.

“It was during his graduation leave that the desperate cry came to us from Korea. John came to us again to join the new Team which again was the best we had to offer. Big John was there with his brief words, with a pat on the back from those big fists to bolster spirits that sagged momentarily, just as he had done in every football game he’d fought . . . keeping an eye on the score and the yardage. He was there, his platoon sergeant tells us, on that black Korean night as he started to check his position and see his Team, to give the pat on the back and the brief words to those who were fighting fatigue and sleep In their foxholes as they waited for the enemy. The sergeant had wanted to make the rounds, but as was the way of this ALL-American, Big John insisted on personally visiting his weary Team himself. It was during this necessary check of the perimeter that John received those fatal wounds. He was reverently laid to rest among others from the Team at the Marine Cemetery in Wonsan, Korea.

“That Big John had not changed to the very end is related by his platoon sergeant. His conversation throughout those last days was filled with his true loves . . . his family, his home and friends, ‘the’ girl, and . . . Football.

“Thus it was that we came to know and love and lose our ALL-American friend . . . Big John Trent.”

In him seemed to dwell the promise of greatness the sort of personality that made people love, admire and respect him; he had within him a love of people, kindliness and a deep, abiding faith in God. He has left a heritage of which he, his family and his friends may be justly proud.

Why he was chosen to die is not understandable, but perhaps he and thousands of others have died so that the generations to come shall be able to walk without fear, to live and worship as they please, and to hold their heads high, as free men should.

His Junior High graduation Speech is a strangely prophetic one, entitled “I Am An American,” and ends fittingly:

“I become a link in an unending, unbroken chain, welded together by the Spirit of Freedom, and shining with an undying purpose that will keep forever the principles of Democracy supreme in a turmoiled world.”

– Louise Trent Ferguson

http://www.arkansasties.com/OtherStates/Tennessee/Korean.htm

John Vansant

John Vansant

Paul Buch

Paul Buch
Medal of Honor

Dave Rost

Dave Rost

Dave Goodling

Dave Goodling

Don Johnson

Don Johnson